On September 12th, 2024, Pedro Giglio made a guest appearance on the 24th episode of Control Break, a podcast run by tech & games journalist Kao Tokio (Quebrando o Controle) and legendary game designer Renato Degiovani.

From Jigu’s origins in the game industry to how he developed One Night in Kawami (and some insight about its future), the three discussed the challenges of an indie developer with a narrative focus – with the occasional question from the live audience. Watch the full video above (content in Portuguese).